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NEW YORK CENTRAL PASSENGER CAR ROSTER

 

This is a combination New York Central passenger car roster summary and list of available HO scale models that are reasonably close to New York Central passenger car prototypes. Please note that I have not tried to detail all possible rebuildings or renumberings as they can sometimes get very complicated and would require an extensive amount of time to detail ( and would make this page too big for most people to handle). Many heavyweight cars ended up in MofW service. I do not have a large amount of information of the early steel underframe cars, so most of the roster details the modern all steel cars and many of the steel underframe cars are not listed at all.

A large number of the cars listed have been offered in brass at one time or another by Soho, Great Brass Fleet or Shoreham ( Railway Classics), so I have not listed the brass models. "STAND-IN" basically means the car 'could' be used to model a particular series, but there are significant body detail differences that make it a poor choice, but of course this is up to the individual. Nearly all of the available plastic models have some minor detail differences between the model and prototype. Models listed WITHOUT notes should be considered CLOSE to NYC prototype, however, one particular area that may not match is the underbody details. Many of the new Walthers passenger cars have bodies that match the NYC, but have different underbody/air conditioning details. For most people, this is not an issue so long as the body is reasonably correct. For others, it may not be acceptable. Since these details can vary from car to car after delivery and years in service and modifications, I have not tried to detail these differences.

 

NOTE: IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING SPECIFIC - DUE TO THE SIZE OF THIS PAGE - IT IS SUGGESTED THAT YOU DO A SEARCH USING THE "CTRL F" COMMAND - NOT VIA THE SEARCH BUTTON.

Click on the lot number for diagram of cars. Click on car number/name for a picture of a car that that group.

 

Note: A ' ~ ' between car numbers means that the series may contain some blanks, or in case of a renumbering, may not have been renumbered in sequence or some cars had been retired by the time of the renumbering and therefore the renumbered series may contain fewer cars.

 

This is a work in progress and as new information comes to light, this page is subject to changes, corrections and additions as I have time to do so. Note: I would like to believe the information contained here is 100% correct, but this is simply impossible. Unfortunately, there have been errors found in the original documents used, as well as transposition and typographical errors in the processing of some documents. NYC and Pullman documents have been used to compile this listing, but these do contain errors themselves. Also, I have not made any attempt to locate NYC cars that still exist - either in some form of Railroad service, privately owned or located in Museums. Some cars marked retired or scrapped may still exist as railroad documents do not usually show what happens after the car has been removed from the Railroad property. Cars may be sold to an equipment dealer and then resold at a later time, but these do not show up in Company records.

 

If you have any questions, corrections or comments, please send them to: nyc @ canadasouthern.com

 

I also have a freight car summary roster:

FREIGHT CAR ROSTER/MODEL REFERENCE

 

UPDATED JULY 12, 2008

 

 

SEPARATE SECTIONS:

 

LIGHTWEIGHT CARS

 

HEAVYWEIGHT PULLMAN CARS

( EXCLUDING PULLMANS PURCHASED IN 1942 AND CONVERTED TO COACHES )

 

 

 

PULLMAN & PARLOR CAR EQUIPMENT AND ASSIGNMENT OF SPACE FOR 1943 AND 1958

 

 

PAINT & LETTERING INFORMATION - DECAL & DRY TRANSFERS

 

 

HEAVYWEIGHT CARS:

BUSINESS CARS

SPECIAL SERVICE CARS

CREW RIDER CARS

STEEL POSTAL

STEEL BAGGAGE/MAIL

STEEL UNDERFRAME BAGGAGE/MAIL

STEEL UNDERFRAME BAGGAGE

STEEL UNDERFRAME AUTO-BAGGAGE

STEEL BAGGAGE/DORMITORY

STEEL BAGGAGE

STEEL HORSE CARS

STEEL UNDERFRAME MILK & REFRIGERATOR CARS

STEEL EXPRESS CARS

STEEL UNDERFRAME EXPRESS CARS

STEEL UNDERFRAME COMBINES

STEEL BAGGAGE/PASSENGER COMBINES

STEEL PASSENGER/BAGGAGE/MAIL COMBINES

STEEL UNDERFRAME COACHES

STEEL COACHES

EX PULLMANS CONVERTED TO COACHES IN 1942

STEEL DINING CARS

STEEL RESTAURANT/LOUNGE/PARLOR CARS

EX PULLMANS CONVERTED TO PARLOR CARS IN 1942

STEEL OBSERVATION CARS

STEEL COMMUTER CLUB CARS

MU COACHES

MU COMBINES

MU BAGGAGE CARS

MU BAGGAGE/MAIL

GAS ELECTRICS

JAMES WHITCOMB RILEY

THE MERCURY

 

 

HEAVYWEIGHT CARS:

BUSINESS CARS:

CAR NUMBER

BUILDER & YEAR BUILT

LOT NUMBER

NUMBER OF CARS

SERVICE LIFE

MODEL THAT IS REASONABLY ACCURATE

NOTES

NYC 1

PULLMAN - 1930

2113

1

1930-1968 - TO PC #1

 

 

NYC 2 (1952+)

NYC 7 (1939-1952)

EX CCC&STL 400 (1928-1939)

PULLMAN - 1928

2076

1

1928-1955 - SOLD TO D&H

 

 

NYC 3

PULLMAN - 1928

2047

1

1928-1968 - TO PC #4 - TO CR #1

 

 

NYC 4

PULLMAN - 1927

2046

1

1927-?

 

 

NYC 5

PULLMAN - 1930

2114

1

1930-1968 - TO PC #6

 

 

NYC 6 (1939+)

EX B&A 99 (1928-1939)

PULLMAN - 1928

2074

1

1928-?

 

 

NYC 7 (1952+)

EX NYC 2 (1928-1952)

PULLMAN - 1928

2048

1

1928-?

 

 

NYC 8 (1939+)

EX MCRR 8 (1928-1939?)

EX MCRR 1 (1913-1928)

PULLMAN - 1913

2014

1

1913-1953 - SOLD TO B&M

 

 

NYC 9 (1930+)

EX NYC 5 (1928-1930)

PULLMAN - 1928

2073

1

1928-1968 - TO PC #5

 

 

NYC 10 (1939+)

EX MC1 (1928-1939)

PULLMAN - 1928

2075

1

1928-1968 - TO PC #2

 

 

NYC 11 (1939+)

EX NYC 8 (1930-1939)

EX NYC 1 (1927-1930)

PULLMAN - 1927

2049

1

1927-1968 - TO PC #7

 

 

NYC 12 (1939-1953)

EX NYC 7

EX NYC 493

EX USRA 3

EX NYC 493

EX HERKIMER

PULLMAN - 1910

796

1

1910-1953

 

 

NYC 14

EX ERRANT

PULLMAN - 1927

2128

1

1937-1956 - SOLD TO FCP

 

 

NYC 15

EX NOMAD

PULLMAN - 1913

2131

1

1937-1957

 

 

NYC 16 (1939+)

EX NYC 6

EX NYC 301

EX USRA 3

EX NYC 301

PULLMAN - 1917

894

1

1917-1957 - SOLD TO P&WV

 

 

NYC 17

EX NYC 44

WAGNER - 1896

P-1

1

1896-1940 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-928

 

 

NYC 17

EX ROALD AMUNDSEN

PULLMAN - 1929

2208

1

1948 - 1965

 

 

NYC 18

EX NYC 496

H&H - 1883

 

1

1883-1942 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-14072

 

 

NYC 18

EX DAVID LIVINGSTONE

PULLMAN - 1927

2209

1

1948-1956 - SOLD TO FCP

 

 

NYC 19 (1937+)

EX NYC 11

EX NYC 300

EX USRA 22

EX NYC 300

EX NYC 99

EX LS&MS 188

B&S - 1890

No lot #

1

1890-1944 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-15036

 

 

NYC 19

EX LS&MS 486

LS&MS - 1895

P-5

1

1895-1948 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-1078

 

 

NYC 19

EX MOUNT HOOD

PULLMAN - 1923

2227

1

1948-1960 - SOLD C.V. WHITNEY "WANDERER"

 

 

NYC 20

EX NYC 488

PULLMAN - 1892

P-7

1

1892-1936 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-1080

 

 

NYC 20 (1937+)

EX NYC 12

EX LS&MS 100

LS&MS - 1910

P-11

1

1910-1948 - SOLD TO SPENO

 

 

NYC 20

EX MOUNT DESERT

PULLMAN - 1923

2228

1

1948-1966+ - SOLD TO BUZZ NORTON "HIRAM"

 

 

NYC 21

EX NYC 491

NYC - 1880

 

1

1880-1937 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-1081

 

 

NYC 21 (1937+)

EX NYC 13

EX- T&OC 24

PULLMAN - 1909

 

1

1909-1941 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-8858

 

 

NYC 22

EX NYC 492

NYC - 1911

 

1

1910-1936 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-994

 

 

NYC 22 (1937-1941)

EX NYC 14

EX LS&MS 201

LS&MS - 1885

P-3

1

1885-1941 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-8863

 

 

NYC 23

EX NYC 494

WAGNER - 1899

 

1

1899-1936 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-996

 

 

NYC 23 (1937-1941)

EX NYC 15

EX LS&MS 101

WAGNER - 1892

P-2

1

1892-1940 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-924

 

 

NYC 21

EX NYC 491

NYC - 1880

 

1

1880-1937 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-1081

 

 

NYC 25

EX NYC 500

B&S - 1906

704

1

1906-1937 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-998

 

 

NYC 25

EX MCRR 2

PULLMAN - 1926

No lot #

1

1926-1951 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-23187

 

 

NYC 26

EX NYC 377

NYC - 1910

191

1

1910-1937 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-1233

 

 

NYC 26 (1937+)

EX MCRR 5?

MCRR - 1906

 

1

1906-1941

 

 

NYC 27

EX NYC 487

LS&MS - 1902

P-6

1

1902-?

 

 

NYC 28

EX NYC 490

LS&MS - 1906

 

1

1906-1946 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-9604

 

 

NYC 28 (1946+)

EX CCC&STL 401

EX P&E 900

P&E - 1890

No lot #

1

1890-1953

 

 

NYC 29

EX NYC 498

GIL - 1867

 

1

1867-?

 

 

NYC 29

EX CCC&STL 402

BEECH GROVE - 1915

 

1

1915-1939

 

 

NYC 30

EX CCC&STL 403

EX USRA 2

EX CCC&STL 401

B&S - 1885

No lot #

1

1885-1951 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-23235

 

 

NYC 30

EX NYC VICTORIA PARK

EX NYC KALAMAZOO VALLEY

EX PULLMAN HUDSON RIVER

EX PULLMAN QUEEN ELIZABETH

PULLMAN - 1925

2167

1

1952?-1968 - TO CR 10

PURCHASED FROM PULLMAN IN 1942

 

 

NYC 31

EX CCC&STL 404

B&S - 1901

 

1

1901-1940 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-20323

 

 

NYC 31

EX NYC 1365

EX NYC 1273

ACF - 1913

824

1

1913-1956 - DEMOTED TO MofW X-8017

 

 

P&LE 97

EX P&LE 114

ACF - 1911

No lot #

1

1919-19??

CONVERTED TO BUSINESS CAR IN 1919

 

 

P&LE 99

PULLMAN - 1928

2093

1

1928-19??

 

 

 

SPECIAL SERVICE CARS:

CAR NUMBERS

BUILDER & YEAR BUILT

LOT NUMBER

LENGTH OVER END FRAMES

NUMBER OF CARS

SERVICE LIFE

MODEL THAT IS REASONABLY ACCURATE

NOTES

B&A 90

GILBERT CAR - 1893

NO LOT #

60'1"

1

1893-19??

STEEL UNDERFRAME INSTRUCTION CAR

 

 

NYC X-800

EX NYC 400

B&S - 1906

706

70'

1

1942-19??

STEEL UNDERFRAME CLEARANCE CAR

 

 

NYC X-8000

WEST ALBANY - 1902

 

60'

1

?

AIR BRAKE INSTRUCTION CAR

 

 

NYC X-8003

LS&MS - 1903

 

60'

1

?

AIR BRAKE INSTRUCTION CAR

 

 

NYC X-8004

PULLMAN - 1900

 

70'

1

?

AIR BRAKE INSTRUCTION CAR

 

 

NYC X-8006

WEST ALBANY - 1923

943

54'9"

1

1923-195?

STEEL DYNAMOMETER CAR

 

 

NYC X-8008

WEST ALBANY - 1889

 

60'

1

?

STEEL UNDERFRAME EYE TEST CAR

 

 

NYC X-8009

PULLMAN - 1907

 

70'

1

?

STEEL UNDERFRAME EYE TEST CAR

 

 

NYC X-8010

PULLMAN - 1909

 

72'5"

1

?

STEEL UNDERFRAME EYE TEST CAR

 

 

NYC X-8014 (1945+)

EX NYC 2790

EX NYC 185

 

PULLMAN - 1901

LS-042

63'

1

1901-1945

TRAIN CONTROL

 

 

NYC X-8015

 

J.G. BRILL - 1931

2112

73'4"

1

RAIL DETECTOR CAR

BUILT NEW AS RAIL DETECTOR CAR - EQUIPMENT SUPPLIED BY SPERRY. SOLD TO SPERRY AROUND 1970

 

 

NYC X-8016

EX NYC M-10

 

J.G. BRILL CO. - 1928

2052

73'

1

CLEARANCE CAR

CONVERTED IN 1955

 

 

NYC X-20800

B&S

 

72'5"

1

?

STEEL UNDERFRAME EYE TEST CAR

 

 

NYC 2791

EX NYC 1502

BEECH GROVE - 1947

2153

70'

1

1947-1954

TRAIN CONTROL

CONVERTED TO MofW SERVICE

 

 

NYC 2795

EX NYC&HR 941

WAGNER - 1899

 

61'

1

1899-1927

SAFETY

 

 

NYC 2795

EX NYC&HR 399

B&S - 1903

LS-056

71'

1

1927-1940

SAFETY

CONVERTED TO MofW SERVICE X932

 

 

NYC 2796

EX NYC&HR 945

WAGNER - 1899

 

 

1

1899-1928

SAFETY

 

 

NYC 2797

EX NYC&HR 944

WAGNER - 1899

 

 

1

1899-1927

AGRICULTURE

 

 

NYC 2797

EX NYC&HR 391

B&S - 1903

LS-056

 

1

1927-1943

AGRICULTURE

CONVERTED TO MofW SERVICE X15030

 

 

NYC 2798

EX NYC&HR ?

B&S - 1903

 

 

1

19??-1943

AGRICULTURE

CONVERTED TO MofW SERVICE X15031

 

 

NYC 2799

EX NYC&HR ?

 

 

 

1

1903-1927

SAFETY

 

 

NYC 2799

EX NYC&HR 392

 

 

 

1

1927-1940

SAFETY

CONVERTED TO MofW SERVICE X14123

 

 

P&LE X-101307

EX P&LE 49

ACF - 1904

NO LOT #

 

1

1927-19??

AIR BRAKE INSTRUCTION CAR

CONVERTED FROM STEEL UNDERFRAME COACH

 

 

 

STEEL OBSERVATION CARS (not Pullman owned/operated):

CAR NUMBERS

BUILDER & YEAR BUILT

LOT NUMBER

LENGTH OVER END FRAMES

NUMBER OF CARS

SERVICE LIFE

MODEL THAT IS REASONABLY ACCURATE

NOTES

NYC KALAMAZOO RIVER

EX PULLMAN HUDSON RIVER (1935)

EX PULLMAN QUEEN ELIZABETH

PULLMAN - 1925

2167

74'6"

1

1925-19??

PURCHASED FROM PULLMAN IN 1942

CONVERTED TO BUSINESS CAR #30

 

 

NYC HURON RIVER

EX NYC MOHAWK RIVER (1935)

EX PULLMAN QUEEN ISABELLA

PULLMAN - 1925

2167

74'6"

1

1925-19??

PURCHASED FROM PULLMAN IN 1942

 

 

 

NYC 2078 (JULY 1959)

EX NYC 2118 (JULY 1942)

EX NYC 51

EX NYC 745

PULLMAN - 1929

2098

78'8"

1

1929-1961

 

 

 

NYC 52

EX NYC 746

PULLMAN - 1927

2080

78'10"

1

1927-1958

 

 

 

NYC 53

BEECH GROVE - 1940

2080

78'10"

1

1940-1955

FOR PACEMAKER SERVICE

REBUILT FROM NYC 747

 

 

NYC 2079 (NOVEMBER 1959)

EX NYC 2119 (JULY 1942)

EX NYC 54

EX CCC&STL 870

ACF - 1929

2102

78'8"

1

1929-1965

 

 

 

NYC 2080 (JULY 1959)

EX NYC 2120 (JULY 1942)

EX NYC 55

EX CCC&STL 871

ACF - 1929

2102

78'8"

1

1929-196?

 

 

 

NYC 56

BEECH GROVE - 1940

2117

78'10"

1

1940-1958

FOR PACEMAKER SERVICE

REBUILT FROM COACH CCC&STL #869

 

 

NYC 2081 (JULY 1959)

EX NYC 2121 (JULY 1942)

EX NYC 57

EX MC 438

PULLMAN - 1929

2099

78'8"

1

1929-1965

CONVERTED TO RIDER COACH IN 1965

 

 

NYC 2122 (JULY 1942)

EX NYC 58

EX MC 439

PULLMAN - 1929

2099

78'8"

1

1929-1965

 

 

 

 

STEEL COMMUTER CLUB CARS:

CAR NUMBERS

BUILDER & YEAR BUILT

LOT NUMBER

LENGTH OVER END FRAMES

NUMBER OF CARS

SERVICE LIFE

MODEL THAT IS REASONABLY ACCURATE

NOTES

NYC 96

EX NYC 2025

MODIFIED AT BEECH GROVE - 1964

927

70'

1

1964-1968+

 

 

NYC 97 (JANUARY 1946)

EX NYC 71

WEST ALBANY - 1927

804

70'

1

1927-1948